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Rob Dubya's avatar

Francis Leader brought me here, I'm glad she did. I am one of those virus deniers from the Kirsch and Chudov substacks. I think with regards to both that there is an element of self preservation stopping them from looking closer. Just how much of this conscious and how much is subconscious only they will know.

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Sanjoy Mahajan's avatar

As another "virus denier," I came here by the same route and am also very happy to have found this site and the very enjoyable and informative articles (not a common combination).

p.s. The Kirschs and Midwestern Doctors of the world who call us "virus deniers" are trying to equate it to Holocaust denial. It's a cheap trick.

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Rob Dubya's avatar

Yes, I have had it with both on their respective Stacks, though I wouldn't put TMD in the same category as Kirsch. I found him more personable and polite. But others may well have had a different experience

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Frances Leader's avatar

Steve Kirsch banned me for 100 years for challenging him with plenty of evidence.

I consider that a badge of honour to be honest.

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dawnfrench's avatar

Controlled Opposition Frances Leader has now banned me because I showed that has nothing more than lies and deception. Good luck with that!

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Sharine Borslien's avatar

"Why do Substack heavyweights like Steve Kirsch and Igor Chudov desperately plea with the other passengers to evacuate the train at "mRNA Station" as if it's going to fall of a cliff?"

Because they are *invested* in continuing the lie of germ theory which is the basis of allopathic medicine AND everything that Big Pharma owns and directs: Big Agriculture with its poisons, GMOs, CAFOs, and lies about nutrition; Politics; Education; Religion, including New (c)Age BS; Sports; Film/TV/Music; etc. How are they invested? Cushy jobs, fame, prestige, and other "perks."

The black magicians use deception as their main tool for manipulating consciousness — *incorrectly* thinking that they are avoiding the consequences of their behavior by "getting people to decide on their own" to participate in their agenda.

The whole of social construction (i.e., The Matrix) is based on this dark occult "artificial elevation." It's why all the same athletes, musicians, actors, producers, celebrities, politicians, et al stay in the limelight: Fakery / fuckery. And don't get me started on trauma-based mind control!

None of it is of the Natural Order, of the Divine Design. Everything they do is inverted and perverted, invasive and imposing, based on using violence to continue and further their desire to subdue all organic life and establish themselves as "God."

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Marc Mullie's avatar

" None of it is of the Natural Order, of the Divine Design."

There 'ya go! you got it! The ultimate source of ALL are woes is the rejection of the Divine Creator in the 'goo to you' theory, the lie of Evolution. Darwin and its Malthusian struggle is the source of Marxism, Fascism, Nihilism, Eugenics (useless eaters AB utero) Abortion (useless eaters IN utero) and the present Great Cull.

Without a Divine Creator, there is NO sacrality to life itself, and humanity becomes a mere herd to be sacrificed on the fake altar of the panentheistic Pachamama and 'climate change'. The present battle is primarily a SPIRITUAL battle.

Marc Mullie MD

Montreal

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Sharine Borslien's avatar

"The present battle is primarily a SPIRITUAL battle."

Precisely.

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Frances Leader's avatar

2nded wholeheartedly!

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