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dawnfrench's avatar

“(Why do "nukes" exist?)”

Just a quick note to say there’s only faked evidence nukes exist so they are just being used to frighten us into compliance (you know, like a virus):

https://theresearchofmilesmathis.substack.com/p/nukes

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

You’re right. There’s no “deleted” comment. Not sure how my comment disappeared without a trace. I’ve posted a new comment along the same lines; it’s been up for 8 hours so far. Let’s see what happens.

https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/im-banned-from-sam-baileys-substack/comment/18150778

“I tried veganism. After a couple of years I felt my body was falling apart. I had to go back to eating animal products, at least dairy. Ironically it was a veganist book that convinced me to go back to going full-bore carnivore. The book said that you can’t have milk without supporting the beef industry. So then I went back to eating beef too and have never looked back.”

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

With friends like Georgie&Donnys who needs enemies?

From their latest climate alarmist article:

https://georgiedonny.substack.com/p/co2-is-not-natures-fertiliser-more

“Whatever the increasingly aggressive and patronising medical freedom movement has become and why it is so anti-environment, so pro-animal agriculture and so pro-oil industry, its ‘scientific’ arguments are cringe worthy.”

I can imagine why Sam Bailey may have seen it fit to kick them out of her comment sections. G&D seem incapable of setting aside their differences on side issues for the sake of the cause. Them making sweeping negative statements about the movement that they purport to be members of really makes you wonder.

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Boostershots's avatar

I agree this G&D quoted passage constitutes a "sweeping negative statement about the movement that they purport to be members of". I don't like it.

There's a lot of bold claims in that same article which aren't supported with any evidence or logic, but I think many of the commenters already did a great job pointing this out.

Now let's say that same G&D quote get's posted on Sam Bailey's blog... Other commenters would quickly refute it with their own logic and evidenced based arguments, and independent observers would easily be able to comprehend what's happening.

Sam's free to moderate however she wants of course, but I still think it's a mistake to ban someone unless it's a really egregiously offensive.

"Moderation of one own’s forum or of comments on one’s own newsletter is not censorship. Sometimes you need to eliminate the trolls."

Sasha Latypova could have made this exact same proclamation after she banned Christine Massey from her blog recently. (That conversation is also hidden by a paywall). A significant portion of the Germ Believers already think of us as "trolls", and many would like to "eliminate" us if they could.

Banning a couple of comments from "trolls" is obviously not the same thing as YouTube taking down an entire Peggy Hall video that had almost 2 million views in 2020. There's certainly no "censorship dualism" whatsoever.

However, Youtube itself could say: "Moderation of one own’s social media platform or of comments on one’s own platform is not censorship. We're a private company, so go somewhere else if you don't like our policy."

Every content creator is kind of like an entire independent "mini Youtube" platform which also has the power to "censor" stuff they don't like.

It's our vision that all forms of censorship, great and small, are limited to the absolute minimum, with the ideal being zero. That's just us.

I couldn't see any "deleted comments" in G&D articles you linked, but if you were banned by them on another article then that's really NOT GOOD, as this greatly diminishes the merit of their complaint against Sam Bailey. (However, I should be asking for evidence of this deletion if I were to be truly objective).

I've got some of my own unique ideas to challenge G&D with later...maybe I'll get banned! (but that's still on the back burner, and who knows when I'll get to that one).

Thanks for reading and commenting.

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Edgardo2's avatar

Thanks for the shoutout! This is great, as always.

Best blog in Satan's world wide web.

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Laura Noncomplier's avatar

Cyberpunks rule!!

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Laura Noncomplier's avatar

I wanted to point out the misspelled names also, thanks Christine. I’ve read a third of your article and will hunker down for the rest soon. I just wanted to say that for us No Viri( misspelled on purpose to ridiculise it further) Crusaders, it IS the defining point of the last 3 years and then further back since the Rockefeller took over medicine. Monky seems to be frothing at the mouth about this Abraham equals germ theory business which is for me nonsensical. I’ve pointed it out to him on his stack. I think his real problem is God not viri and thus should be fighting a different battle. His battle is not our battle!! I am a Catholic, a psychiatrist and a Viri denier. I don’t think the 3 positions have much overlap and I’m not forcing anyone to believe all 3!

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Christine Massey FOIs's avatar

"Monky Science" (there is no "e" btw in Monky) and Alec (Zeck, not Zach lol!) are both super, super guys. Can't read this entire article, it's very long!

I banned a bunch of people under my last post, because it was 1 guy/gal who kept swearing and leaving endless inane comments, wasting vast amounts of my time. I banned 1 account and then another showed up with the exact same type of comments so I banned them, and then anothe rand another, on and on, clearly the same person (I'm not the only one who noticed it was the same person).

I've banned a few other people for same/similar reasons - wasting vast amounts of my time with inane comments, i.e. one guy named "Mogol" who left many comments under each article month after month, irrelevant details about "genome" databases, fake-"sequencing" and computer programming, that had nothing to do with "viruses". I had to do it, for my sanity!

Discussed the God-experiment idea with MS but don't see how one could use God as an independent variable. If God exists, how would you remove the influence of God in a control group? Or, what sort of experiment could you do to test for existence of God using the scientific method? SM is for testing causation.

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

I don’t know much about “Monky Science” but from what posts I’ve read of his I would call him a troll. Has he actually written any articles? Or does he just post provocative comments against “Abrahamic religions”?

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Christine Massey FOIs's avatar

Just click on his name to see his substack articles. He's written numerous articles (both on substack and elsewhere), he's been very active helping to expose virology since 2020, and been my #1 FOI collaborator, filed complaints to various "government" agencies including NZ's Serious Fraud agency (they blew him off). He needed to stay more in the background due to concerns about the safety of his family and his employment (which he eventually lost due to his efforts to expose the fraud of virology). He's been working on this nonstop, while also working and raising a family, since learning of the virus fraud/delusion. I have tons of respect for him. Below is just a sample of his work.

https://monkyscience.substack.com/

His 59 second intro to virology:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg5qnmqjWsM

October 22, 2020 he spoke on the NZ radio call-in program “Magic Mornings” re the non-isolation of the theoretical, never-proven-to-exist “SARS-COV-2 virus” – his segment begins at the 1:13:20 mark: https://www.magic.co.nz/home/shows/talk/magic-mornings.html

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

Thanks for the context! I’ll check out his articles.

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Boostershots's avatar

I've always loved reading the intense debates in your comment sections. I'm well aware of all the ridiculousness that's often wedged into that discourse.

I remember the Mogol character and others of similar vein who seemingly carpet-bombed your comment section with lots of repetitive or irrelevant information.

However, from my own outside perspective, this "ridiculousness" has always been very easy to navigate around, and it only provides more confirmation that the Germ Believers can't overcome your evidence-based arguments. I believe other new independent observers would conclude the same thing.

Their "carpet bombs" have no effect, no matter how many they drop, and it's usually a joy to witness!

But I suppose you could argue that our "joy" shouldn't be at the expense of your "sanity" when the bombing raids get too "ridiculous"!

Everyone's free to moderate their own blogs however they want, and that's a huge part of free speech of course.

We're simply offering our own ideal vision.

We love your blog, thanks for your comment, and thanks for all the great work you're doing to expose the fraud of germ theory.

-Boostershots

PS, we fixed the name misspellings, total error on our part...(that was embarrassing)...

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

Moderation of one own’s forum or of comments on one’s own newsletter is not censorship. Sometimes you need to eliminate the trolls.

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

Regarding Georgie&Donnys as victims of censorship. Their newsletter promotes hard core veganism as in, no butter, no eggs, no honey for anyone at any time. I once posted a comment saying that eating animal products is part of every human culture everywhere throughout history, and that such food is essential for human health. I went back to see what their response would be and found that my comment had been deleted.

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Laura Noncomplier's avatar

Interesting, see my comment below. No viri is the current battle, not veganism or atheism or God. These are personal beliefs nothing to do with No Viri!!

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

Here’s the article in question. Disagree with any of the claims made about the value of animal products in the human diet, or the possibility of sustainable or humane agriculture that includes livestock? Try posting a polite rebuttal and see what happens. My prediction: comments will be turned off or restricted to paid subscribers by the time you read this.

https://open.substack.com/pub/georgiedonny/p/self-important-and-pompous-jordon

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Alex Eulenberg's avatar

Comments are still up on the article. Anyone want to see for themselves if contrary opinions regarding eating animals are allowed now at Georgie&Donnys?

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